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	<title>Comments on: The Purchasing Powers of Hipsters</title>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, this is a topic after my own heart! Ten years ago (!!!) I wrote an article called Subcultural Commodification for a rave culture magazine: http://www.arielmeadow.com/resume/files/subcom.html

The general premise was that marketers are always looking to make money from and via youth subcultures, and that it&#039;s up to the members of that subculture to spend their funds within their community, rather than paying it up or out.

In my niche market (nontraditional weddings) I see people doing this by doing most of their wedding shopping via sites like etsy.com. There seems to be a general trend toward &quot;Well, if I have to consume ... I can at least buy indie...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this is a topic after my own heart! Ten years ago (!!!) I wrote an article called Subcultural Commodification for a rave culture magazine: <a href="http://www.arielmeadow.com/resume/files/subcom.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.arielmeadow.com/resume/files/subcom.html</a></p>
<p>The general premise was that marketers are always looking to make money from and via youth subcultures, and that it&#8217;s up to the members of that subculture to spend their funds within their community, rather than paying it up or out.</p>
<p>In my niche market (nontraditional weddings) I see people doing this by doing most of their wedding shopping via sites like etsy.com. There seems to be a general trend toward &#8220;Well, if I have to consume &#8230; I can at least buy indie&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty of youth cultures have evaded commodification - skinheads, gabba, necro/hardcore hip-hop, etc.

The difference is that most people have never heard of them, and probably for good reason. 

Their primary characteristics are impossible to package up and sell (racism*, drug use) and the music is impossible to tone down for a mainstream audience (180bpm+ speed-fuelled techno, rapping about rape/murder, etc).

Any youth culture which is based around a vague, individualist, mostly harmless teenage rebellion and which can be toned down to be acceptable to sell in Walmart is a marketer&#039;s wet dream and will be quickly packaged up for sale to the masses.

In an age in which hordes of marketers count it as their full-time job to watch trends for the Next Big Thing, the subcultures which don&#039;t get commodified are not commodified for a good reason.

* I know skinheads weren&#039;t originally associated with racism, but by the time the culture got big enough to commodify it was - the racists got to &#039;em before the marketers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of youth cultures have evaded commodification &#8211; skinheads, gabba, necro/hardcore hip-hop, etc.</p>
<p>The difference is that most people have never heard of them, and probably for good reason. </p>
<p>Their primary characteristics are impossible to package up and sell (racism*, drug use) and the music is impossible to tone down for a mainstream audience (180bpm+ speed-fuelled techno, rapping about rape/murder, etc).</p>
<p>Any youth culture which is based around a vague, individualist, mostly harmless teenage rebellion and which can be toned down to be acceptable to sell in Walmart is a marketer&#8217;s wet dream and will be quickly packaged up for sale to the masses.</p>
<p>In an age in which hordes of marketers count it as their full-time job to watch trends for the Next Big Thing, the subcultures which don&#8217;t get commodified are not commodified for a good reason.</p>
<p>* I know skinheads weren&#8217;t originally associated with racism, but by the time the culture got big enough to commodify it was &#8211; the racists got to &#8216;em before the marketers.</p>
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